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IT ALL STARTED HERE > Epic Network Blog Offers NO B.S. Review of Len Clement's NEW Network Marketing/ MLM Business

The Truth Behind Len Clements's Epic Network's Business Model

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Len Clements: An interveiw with the CEO of Epic Networks

Clarification On Len Clements's Investors. How Will They Make Money In Epic Network?

Epic Network: The Compensation Advantage. How do you get paid?

Epic Network's NEW Product Line & Advantages

Len Clements and the Four Horse-Men of Epic Network

Epic Network's Comp Plan Revisited: How to make a better binary pay plan

Epic Network Products Reviewed And A Coincidence You Are NOT Going To Believe

Epic Slim reviewed

Epic Network's Products aren't the only thing that's competitively priced...

Len Clements's Thoughts On Epic Network's Lead Generation Program

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Epic Network Blog moves to a new home.
08.27.05 (4:23 am)

As most of you know who found this blog through google, Epic Network Blog has been the top search result for keywords such as Epic Network, Epic Network International, Len Clements and such.

Through happenstance my blog has been removed from google's directory. This event seems nearly personal since it is the only search engine that seems to do this. If you check Yahoo , MSN , Altavista, Dogpile (no longer number 1 thanks to google)and even the most verbos search engine alltheweb has Epic Network Blog at the top.



I've since decided that Instead of trying to figure out why, I'm going to redirect traffic to a back up blog. As you can see by the dates on previous post, I havn't needed to use the back up for some time.



I know there is not nearly as much insider Epic Network International info on this blog. However, until google pulls the spider out of thier butt, I will be updating this blog.


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Epic Network Blog Contact Changes
08.22.05 (11:17 am)
If you have been trying to email me using the address johnsonb2004@earthlink.net, I havn't been getting them. I'm not ignoring you. I simply forgot to make the changes to my new ISP email.

Free free to contact me via my NEW email address johnsonb2005@adelphia.net

-The man behind the curtain
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Gano Excel blog post addendum
08.22.05 (2:48 am)

As you can see I mistakenly reposted a press release about Gano Excel twice.  This was in no way a means to spam my own blog.


 


I would also like to take a moment to once again restate why I even posted ANYTHING about Gano Excel on my blog.  I was not looking to slam Gano Excel. Because of recent changes at Gano Excel regarding their marketing plan, which includes their compensation plan, there has been a noticeable increase in Gano Excel Independent Distributors looking for an alternative.  I'm sure this has increased the distributorships of any number of MLM programs.  Epic Network International also happens to be one of those fortunate companies.


Why?  Well I guess the obvious answer is (as stated previously) Epic Network International offers a wonderful competing product called Epic Gano.


Epic Gano Coffee, which is an Instant Coffee (Black) is a delicious real coffee product with low caffeine. What makes Epic Gano so special is the addition of high quality Ganoderma Lucidum powder, an amazingly nutrition rich Red Mushroom that provides energy, helps expel toxins from the body, and gently assists in elimination. This is a type of mushroom that, when dried, takes on a hard consistency much like that of a dried coffee bean. The Ganoderma even tastes like coffee and enhances the bold, rich taste of the premium coffee beans we use in our formulation. It's easy to prepare and convenient to carry.


Epic Gano coffee competes directly with Gano Excel's Ganocafe Classic (as described from their website):


Ganocafe Classic A rich blend of nutrition and pleasant aroma come together with a taste you will fall in love with. A genuine black coffee made from our famous Brazilian coffee bean and Ganoderma extract. Spare yourself some free time and enjoy your next cup of coffee. You can even flavor our Ganocafe Classic coffee to your own personal taste.


Another product Epic Network International markets is Epic Gano Coffee (4-in-1)


Instant Epic Gano Coffee is a delicious real coffee product with low caffeine and includes non-dairy creamer and real sugar. But what makes Epic Gano so special is the addition of high quality Ganoderma Lucidum powder, an amazingly nutrition rich Red Mushroom that provides energy, helps expel toxins from the body, and gently assists in elimination. This is a type of mushroom that, when dried, takes on a hard consistency much like that of a dried coffee bean. The Ganoderma even tastes like coffee and enhances the bold, rich taste of the premium coffee beans we use in our formulation. It's easy to prepare and convenient to carry.


This product also competes directly with Gano Excel's Gano Cafe 3-in-1 (as described on thier website) 


Gano Café is a nutritious health beverage that is made from Ganoderma extract, high quality coffee, non-dairy creamer and sugar. Gano Café is the first known beverage in the world that comes in a combination of coffee and Ganoderma brought to you exclusively by Gano Excel™.


As you can see, Epic Network International and Gano Excel have both tapped into a HUGE market potential. With products so similar, it is my belief that this is why so many Gano Excel distributors have been contacting me lately.


"So, what's the deal with the press release of a recall and the warning letter?" You might ask.  Well when my phone starts ringing and emails come flowing in and they are folks from one particular company I start to wonder why.  As I stated in previous post, I simply went to google to find out any news on Gano Excel


Since the press release and warning letter are the top to results on google, I figured them to be relevant.  However, I should have said this... the warning letter was issued in April of 2004 and the recall press release was issued in February of 2005.


Does this mean they are not relevant?  I know for a fact the leadership at Gano Excel believe this to be true.  However, you have to admit...it doesn't help.  That being said, based on new information, I will not be making any more assumptions that these notices are the cause of the recent inflow of Gano Excel Distributors to Epic Network International.

I will close with this thought.  I do not wish Gano Excel Ill will.  In fact I hope they pull though this.  I believe they are pioneers to the MLM arena.  They had the foresight to tap into a market with such obvious potential that no one until now thought to capitalize on it.  I also pat Epic Network International's founder, Len Clements on the back for seeing the light as well.
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Gano Excel's with more bad news.
08.17.05 (7:31 am)

While doing more research to discover why Gano Excel Reps Flock to Epic Network, I came across this press release.


Gano Excel USA, Inc. Issues Recall and Allergy Alert on Undeclared Milk Protein
in GANO CAFE 3-IN-1, GANO CAFE GINSENG TONGKAT ALI, and GANO C'REAL SPIRULINA
OATS



Contact:

Andy Nakashima

(626) 480-7550



FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE --Irwindale, CA -- February 17, 2005 --- GANO EXCEL USA,
in Irwindale, CA is recalling GANO CAFE 3-IN-1, GANOCAFE GINSENG TONGKAT ALI,
and GANO C'REAL SPIRULINA OATS due to undeclared milk products. People
who have an allergy or severe sensitivity to milk proteins run the risk of serious
or life-threatening allergic reactions if they consume these products.


GANO CAFE 3-IN-1, GANOCAFE GINSENG TONGKAT ALI, and GANO


C'REAL SPIRULINA OATS have been sold person-to-person by Independent
Gano Excel(tm) Distributors throughout the United States and Canada.


The products affected are as follows:



  1. GANO CAFE 3-IN-1 instant coffee beverage with Ganoderma Extract sold in
    a package of 20 packets of 21 grams each.

  2. GANOCAFE GINSENG TONGKAT ALI sold in a package of 15 packets of 23 grams
    each.

  3. GANO C'REAL SPIRULINA OATS sold in a package 15 packets of 30 grams each.


No illnesses or reactions have been reported to date in connection
with these products.


Gano Excel USA is conducting this recall following sampling
conducted by Health Canada that revealed the presence of an undeclared milk
protein, which was not declared on the product label. Subsequent investigation
revealed the products contain the undeclared milk protein.


Consumers who have purchased these products should contact
their Independent Gano Excel Distributor for a full refund or call Gano Excel
USA at (626) 338-8081 for further information.


The Food and Drug Administration is aware of the recall


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Gano Excel Reps Find a New Home at Epic Network
08.11.05 (8:54 pm)

Recent changes at Gano Excel seem to be the last straw for many distributors. Over the past year or so, Gano Excel has recieved much good press but also much bad press as the excitment over a new category of health products ramps up.



The problems started with a warning letter to Gano Excel from the FDA in April 15, 2004. Here's that letter for refrence:

Department of Health and Human Services Public Health Service

Food and Drug Administration

Los Angeles District

19701 Fairchild

Irvine, California 92612-2506

Telephone (949) 608-2900




WARNING LETTER



CERTIFIED MAIL

RETURN RECEIPT REQUESTED

April 15, 2004

W/L 34-04



Mr. Bernardo T. Chua

President

Gano Excel U.S.A. Inc.

4981 Irwindale Ave., Suite 800

Irwindale, CA 92260



Re: promotion of various products including Ganoderma capsules, Excellium capsules, Gano Garcinia capsules, and Sakanno



Dear Mr. Chua:



This letter is in reference to the products marketed and distributed by your firm Gano Excel U.S.A. that contain the ingredient “Ganoderma.” The various products are: Ganoderma capsules, Excellium capsules, Gano Garcinia capsules, and Sakanno.



On November 5-19, 2003, representatives of the Food and Drug Administration (FDA) inspected your firm and collected labeling for your products. We also reviewed your website at www.ganoexcel.com. Our review of your website and the labeling of your products indicates serious violations of the Federal Food, Drug and Cosmetic Act (the Act). We have determined that your products are drugs under Section 201(g)(1)(B) of the Act because they are intended to treat, mitigate, cure, diagnose, or prevent disease. You can find the Act and FDA regulations regulations on the Internet through links on FDA’s web page www.fda.gov.



Your web site at the address: http:// www.ganoexcel.com contains the following claims about treatment, prevention, and diagnosis of disease:



“Ganoderma helps to detect hidden diseases... ”
Ganoderma, “is known . . . for its power to remove...excess cholesterol.... ”
Under “Why we need to take Ganoderma ?” it states that Ganoderma “has the ability.. . to discover if we have hidden diseases in the body. Then it removes the toxins and enables the body to treat a wide spectrum of diseases with the natural immune system. ”
The “Testimony” section of your website promotes Gano Excel for the treatment of gout, diabetes, and psoriasis.
These drugs are misbranded within the meaning of section 502(f)(1) of the Act, in that the labeling for these drugs fails to bear adequate directions for use.



The labeling of your products indicates that you intend to sell Ganoderma capsules, Excellium capsules, and Sakanno as dietary supplements. If you intend to market these products as dietary supplements, they must meet the definition of dietary supplements in Section 201(ff) of the Act, and must comply with the applicable food labeling regulations in Title 21 of the Code of Federal Regulations, Part 101 (21 CFR 101). Even if the products meet the legal definition of dietary supplements, however, they may be subject to regulation as drugs based on claims in labeling or advertising. Section 403(r)(6) of the Act provides that structure/function claims may be made on the labeling for dietary supplements under certain circumstances. Marketing a dietary supplement with express or implied claims to prevent, treat, mitigate, cure, or diagnose a specific disease, or class of diseases, violates the Act unless FDA has authorized the claim in accordance with applicable health claim regulations, see 21 CFR 101.14 and 101.70, through the new drug approval process, see 21 CFR 314, or through the issuance of an OTC monograph, see 21 CFR 330.



This letter is not an all-inclusive review of your web site and the products that your firm markets. It is your responsibility to ensure that all products marketed by your firm comply with the Act and its implementing regulations. Please notify this office in writing, within fifteen (15) days Tom the receipt of this letter, as to the specific steps you have taken to identify and make corrections to assure that similar violations will not recur. If corrective action cannot be completed within 15 working days, state the reason for delay and the time within which the corrections will be implemented.



Your written reply should be addressed to Compliance Officer MaryLynn Datoc at the above address.



Sincerely,



/s/



Alonza E. Cruse

District Director



Then on February 17, 2005 the following press release was sent out...



Gano Excel USA, Inc. Issues Recall and Allergy Alert on Undeclared Milk Protein in GANO CAFE 3-IN-1, GANO CAFE GINSENG TONGKAT ALI, and GANO C'REAL SPIRULINA OATS


Contact:

Andy Nakashima

(626) 480-7550



FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE --Irwindale, CA -- February 17, 2005 --- GANO EXCEL USA, in Irwindale, CA is recalling GANO CAFE 3-IN-1, GANOCAFE GINSENG TONGKAT ALI, and GANO C'REAL SPIRULINA OATS due to undeclared milk products. People who have an allergy or severe sensitivity to milk proteins run the risk of serious or life-threatening allergic reactions if they consume these products.



GANO CAFE 3-IN-1, GANOCAFE GINSENG TONGKAT ALI, and GANO



C'REAL SPIRULINA OATS have been sold person-to-person by Independent Gano Excel(tm) Distributors throughout the United States and Canada.



The products affected are as follows:



GANO CAFE 3-IN-1 instant coffee beverage with Ganoderma Extract sold in a package of 20 packets of 21 grams each.
GANOCAFE GINSENG TONGKAT ALI sold in a package of 15 packets of 23 grams each.
GANO C'REAL SPIRULINA OATS sold in a package 15 packets of 30 grams each.
No illnesses or reactions have been reported to date in connection with these products.



Gano Excel USA is conducting this recall following sampling conducted by Health Canada that revealed the presence of an undeclared milk protein, which was not declared on the product label. Subsequent investigation revealed the products contain the undeclared milk protein.



Consumers who have purchased these products should contact their Independent Gano Excel Distributor for a full refund or call Gano Excel USA at (626) 338-8081 for further information.



The Food and Drug Administration is aware of the recall




So why do I even bring this up? Because, my phone has been ringing off the hook with Gano Excel Reps, who are completly frustrated at the last round of comp plan changes. They've spent much time and efforts developing strong customer bases for this high demand product. So since Epic Network is Gano Excels strongest competition, it allows for an easy transition that should be fairly transparent to thier (Gano Excel rep's) customers.



Be sure to check back as more detail are coming in daily.



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The Giving Pool: Epic Commitment To Giving Back Via A Charitable Donations Program
06.08.05 (3:32 am)
Epic Network donates 1% of company profits each month to a predetermined selection of nominated charitable organizations. Each donation is made in the name of an Epic distributor who, when notified, selects a charity from the list (yet another way Epic Network honors its distributors). Distributors may nominate charities to be added to the list at any time, by approval of the Distributor Advisory Council.

Here is our current list honored distributors may choose from:

AIDS Research Foundation
ALS Association
Alzheimer's Association
American Cancer Society
American Heart Association
American Lung Association
American Red Cross
Avon Breast Cancer Foundation
Big Brothers Big Sisters of America
Boy Scouts of America
Christopher Reeve Paralysis Foundation
Crohn's & Colitis Foundation of America
Disabled American Veterans
Doctors Without Borders USA
Easter Seals
Feed the Children
Girl Scouts of the United States of America
Humane Society
Make a Wish Foundation
Mothers Against Drunk Driving
Michael J. Fox Foundation for Parkinson's Research
Muscular Dystrophy Association
National Association for the Self-Employed
National Center for Neighborhood Enterprises
National Hospice Organization
Operation Smile
Rainforest Alliance
Ronald McDonald House Charities
St. Jude Children's Research Hospital
United Negro College Fund
United Way of America
Will Roger's Institute
World Wildlife Fund
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Epic Network Updates Part Deux
04.13.05 (4:07 am)
Those in attendance this last Saturday at Epic's "Road to Success" event, went home with several new tools in hand. They included:

Collateral material - Presentation Folder and Brochure - These classy, full-colored printed materials will support you in building your "Fortune 500" business.

CD - The Road to Success - Living an EPIC Life with Joe Woolsey, Nutritional Consultant and Featuring Dr. Ken Johnson, Chairman of EPIC's Scientific Advisory Board. Listen to this CD in your car, computer, or CD player. This information rich CD educates your potential business partners and retail customers on the importance of living a healthy life from the inside out. Taken from Epic's launch event, this is an ideal tool to mail to everyone you know and to deliver or ship with any products you sell.

DVD - An Introduction To Epic Network International - Whether you invite people to your home, use for a large presentation, or mail to a prospect, this tool features CEO, Len Clements, and Epic's President, Randy Mitchell. They present the 4 Epic Advantages - Corporate, Product, Compensation, and Support. In less than 45 minutes, your prospects will discover for themselves why choosing Epic Network is the road to success.

CD - The Road to Success - Creating an Epic Life Testimonials are one of the strongest tools to build any business. This 11 minute CD features interviews and footage taken from Epic's Launch Event in January of this year. At the end is information about Epic's next 2-day event, May 20-21, 2005 to be held in Irvine, CA. This is an excellent tool to excite your business partners in getting to this important event. The testimonials capture the heart of why people choose Epic Network as the vehicle to drive their dreams forward.

Don't you wish you had been there too? Well, we're not going to leave you behind without these great tools. Early next week a packet will be mailed to each ACTIVE distributor (those who have activated their account by purchasing a Distributor Kit).

Additional copies are available for a minimal cost. Simply call your home office support staff for details.

Last week Len Clements held a conference call that discussed some exciting and profitable enhancments to the Epic Network Compensation Program. You can listen in on that call for your self. Simply click here to play
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Support Advantage - Epic Team Concept
04.10.05 (5:49 am)
The worldwide Epic Network distributor organization is made up of sixteen teams. Each team leader is a member of Epic’s Distributor Advisory Council. It is his or her responsibility to work with the founding members of their team to come up with a team name, team colors, and team logo (to be unveiled at our inaugural convention in the Spring of 2005). In the future we’ll even have contests for best team song, team mascot, team slogan, and much more!

Our teams will compete in various company wide games and contests, both in the field and at company sponsored events. Team oriented performance data will always be displayed in the Leader’s Board area of the Epic Network corporate web site.

The Team concept is commonly practiced by many Asian network marketing companies who have had phenomenal success with it. The spirit, commitment, and comradery generated by this concept far transcends the individualistic nature of most Western based MLM programs.

Success in network marketing really is a team effort. It’s time to bring this exciting, fun, and fulfilling Team concept to the U.S. market!
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WOW!!! NICE IMPROVEMENTS
04.08.05 (1:25 pm)
Just when I thought Len Clements couldn't impress me more he goes and does this....

The NEW & GREATLY IMPROVED Epic Network Website
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Busting the Pyramid Myth:
04.08.05 (3:27 am)
"Is that one of those Pyramid Schemes?" Have you ever heard someone days this before? have you ever said it before? Common thinking is that Multi-Level Marketing programs form a pyramid where the guy at the top makes all the money of the guys at the bottom.

There are two thoughts that come to mind about this.

1. Network Marketing / MLM, unlike corporate America is the only supportive structure where EVERYONE has the opportunity to enter the business at the top. Are there folks who entered the top before you? Yes. Do they earn income when you make sales? Yes. Does that make it a pyramid scheme? NO!!!

2. As you can see by the diagram below, Network Marketing teams actually form a diamond shape...not a pyramid. In fact Corporations ARE pyramid schemes. They are shaped like a pyramid. The guy at the top profits off the efforts of the guy at the bottom. Not only that, the guy at the bottom has little or no chance of elevating to the top position? Why? Because there's only room for one CEO in a company.

In Network Marketing there's room for anyone to ascend to the top if that is their goal.

NOTE: These two outlines depict the concept of building an organization with a unilevel comp plan verses a binary comp plan. Unilevel tend to build wide and shalow while binaries tend to build deep.
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If you missed the call last night, you can hear it online
04.05.05 (11:42 am)
Greetings Epic Business Partners,

On Monday evening, April 4, 2005, Epic's CEO, Len Clements, and President, Randy Mitchell hosted a Good News! call where 4 distinct announcements were made.

If you missed the call, or want to hear it again, then go to: http://www.audioacrobat.com/p... (I apologize for the "rude" Q&A and Presentation mode announcement towards the beginning of the recording. This will get handled for future calls).

On the call both Len and Randy said there are even more exciting announcements they will be making this Saturday at Epic's Event. New collateral material is literally "hot off the press" and will be presented at the event...plus several other tools to assist and support you in building your own business and creating an Epic Life.

Epic Life 101 - The Road to Success is being held at the Atrium Hotel which is across the street from the John Wayne Airport in Irvine, CA. Go to www.epicnetworkevents.com for full details.

As Randy said on the call, either get on a bus, train, plane or ride a bike, but get there...and don't come alone. Saturday afternoon is a jam-packed training session on "how to" build your business. Bring your prospects to the morning session, invite them to stay for lunch (on Epic!) get them signed up and by the time they leave on Saturday afternoon, they are ready to put the "pedal to the metal".

Supporting you in living an Epic Life,

Your Epic Support Team
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Epic Announcments from Tonights call
04.04.05 (5:00 pm)
Epic has just announced that starting next week we can expect 4 new features to the Epic Network opportunity. They are:

1) A $50 Fast start bonus when you personally enroll someone who maximizes the comp plan with a $300 wholesale initial purchase.

2) To sweeten the deal for that new person, when they to start at the top of the pay plan with an starting $300 purchase, that new team member will also earn a fast start bonus of $40.50

$40.50 comes from paying a 30% retail sales bonus on the first $135 of their $300

3) While bonus payouts are still on a fixed 4-week cycle. The qualifying cycles are now on a rolling 4-week cycle.

4) Fortune 100 quality Collateral marketing materials and sales aids.

The only thing that can trump this announcement was the word that another exciting call announcing even more additions will be following in the next couple of weeks. Stay tuned!!!
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Don't Miss Tonights Exciting Epic Network Updates Conference Call!!!
04.04.05 (12:12 pm)
Please join Epic's CEO, Len Clements and President, Randy Mitchell this Monday for important and exciting updates.

NEW TIME: 5:45 pm PST - 8:45 pm EST

Dial: 702-835-5000 - access code 43742#
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An insiders talk about developing leadership in your business.
04.03.05 (8:39 am)
If you’ve ever wanted to learn the secret to developing leaders in you business, then just spend a few minutes listening to Art Jonak. On a recent conference call Art gives straight talk on topics such as…

How to develop leaders in your group.

What’s the secrete to being, seeing or finding new leaders for your team.

How much time does a leader spend on managing their team?

How any developing leader can handle virtually any issues that may arise on your team

But Art didn’t stop there. Art also dished out gold nugget insider info by sharing his technique for…

Positioning your self as the only viable option…in an empowering way.

If this information interest you as you develop your business feel free to check out my blog below. Art uncovered these gems to business building and much more. Over and hour was spent hammering down on the specifics of leadership. Thanks to the call being recorded, you can hear this valuable information and learn to quickly apply it in your business.

Click on the link to listen. http://www.audioacrobat.com/p...
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Romantic Semantics - Deciphering MLM's Secret Language
04.01.05 (6:21 am)
By Leonard W. Clements © 1999

Romantic: Imaginative, but impractical; not based on fact, imaginary.

Semantics: The study of meaning in language form with regard to its historical change.

These definitions courtesy of the American Heritage Dictionary. So, how does this apply to network marketing? Let us count the ways.

Network marketers have, over the last half century, evolved into some of the greatest spin doctors and word-smiths that our society has ever created. We've become masters at romancing our semantics. That is, we as an industry have created this wonderful, al beit misleading and illusionary, way of stating facts. As paradoxical as that may sound (illusionary facts?), practically every line of every ad, and every sentence spoken at a typical opportunity meeting now contains some degree of evidence of this. To wit...

"No, we don't accept credit cards... we're in the business of getting people out of debt, not further in debt!"

I didn't make that one up. A prominent MLM company made this exclamation several years ago - after burning through 22 Merchant Service providers that refused to accept their account. The proverbial lemonade out of lemons.

How about this classic: "We are absolutely debt free!" Translation: "No one will lend us money!" Now, understand. I'm sure there are many MLM companies who are debt free because they pay for everything with cash, and they can comfortably afford to do so. Good for them. But, how do you know? Simply proclaiming yourself debt free certainly implies your cash rich and financially prudent, or it could mean you can't initiate credit terms, or you've screwed so many of your vendors in the past they're only agree to do business with you on a cash basis. The latter scenario would likely signal the death knell of the company. Yet, they could still claim "We are absolutely debt free!" and they would be absolutely telling the truth. Another paradox. Dishonest honesty.

I've always loved this one: "We're approaching momentum!" Now, if we were to make the logical assumption that all MLM companies will eventually achieve some degree of fast growth if they stay in business long enough, practically any company could make this claim. But, what exactly is "momentum?" Is it 50% growth in one month? Is it 100% monthly growth over three months? One thousand percent in a week? Well, let's take a look at one recent situation. A 10-plus year old MLM company had never received more than 350 applications in a single day. That was their record. Then, one recent Thursday, out of no where, 800 apps swamped the home office. The next day, 1,300 more! Some of their distributors road through MLMville yelling "Momentum is coming! Momentum is coming!" Was it? Mmm, well, sounds like it, doesn't it? But, let's take a peak behind the scenes. This company had a $295 enrollment package (I've changes the details here just slightly to protect the innocent). They had also just absorbed the distributor base of another MLM company. This new influx of distributors were given a grace period to re-enroll and have the $295 fee waved. Guess when the deadline was? That's right. Five o'clock that Friday.

Pay no attention to that man behind the curtain.

Let's stay with this issue of "momentum" a bit longer. This is surely one of the most romanticized words in the MLMer vocabulary. What exactly is "approaching?" A common MLM myth that continues to go in and out of remission is that MLM companies hit momentum when they reach $50 million in annual sales. The truth is, one company out of thousands, over the last 53 years, went into momentum at that point (Nu Skin around 1990). Not one before, not one since. But, for some reason, that's now the accepted benchmark by many MLM romantics. So, when they boldly claim that their company is going into momentum soon because they are "approaching $50 million in annual sales," are they being truthful? It's hard not to be. If that company had sales last month of $10, and sales this month were $20, they are, in fact, "approaching" $50 million in annual sales.

Rationalizing: Lying with a clear conscience.

That's the Clements Dictionary definition.

The word games some companies play to avoid the Multilevel Marketing stigma are almost funny. Almost. The original title is a definition unto itself. Multilevel Marketing: Multiple levels of people marketing. Pretty simple, isn't it? Yet there are companies out there that will deny ad nausea, even to the point of taking legal action, if you refer to them as a Multilevel Marketing operation - even though there are obviously multiple levels of people marketing there in. What's so absurd about this is that their entire case is based on nothing more than title changes. Their delineation from MLM is based solely on their making up a different group of words for things. For example, Melaluaca is NOT multilevel marketing, they are Consumer Direct Marketing. Market America is NOT multilevel marketing, they are the UnFranchise. Mary Kay Cosmetics is NOT multilevel marketing, they are Dual Marketing. And, they don't have "break away" groups, they have "offspring" groups. They don't have levels, they have "tiers."

I think I'll call the tires of my Mitsubishi "landing gear" and the body a "fuselage" and the cab a "cockpit" and the horizontal fin on my trunk a "wing" and then I can rightfully claim to be an airline pilot. Can't I?

Sarcasm: A mocking or contemptuously ironic remark.

Here's a few other recent examples. I'll just run through them quickly.

"We're listed with the Better Business Bureau!" One of the most common ways a company get's "listed" with the BBB is by having complaints registered against it. A company chooses to be a member.

"(fill in the blank) has been nominated for a Nobel Prize!" I can nominate by cat for a Nobel Prize.

"(fill in the blank) has previously owned/operated two multi-million dollar network marketing companies!" Mohammed Ali wanted to be "four time Heavy Weight Champion." To achieve this feat required that he lose at least three times. So, if so-and-so used to own and operate other MLM companies - what happened to them? They went out of business? They were shut down? The shareholders booted him out? He sold his interest and is now starting another MLM company in competition with his old company? The possibilities are myriad. None of them are good.

"Our products are listed in the Physician's Desk Reference." The PDR lists what you pay them to. The publisher "does not warrant or guarantee," nor have they performed "any independent analysis," nor are they "advocating the use of" any product found therein. That's straight from the forward of the 47th edition.

"Our product is a $60 billion industry!" In other words, you're trying to sell something everyone already possesses?

"We don't sell lotions and potions!" So, you're saying you've intentionally avoided the one product niche that the largest, most successful MLM companies and richest distributors are all involved in? That's a selling point?

"No meetings!" So, you're saying you don't offer what has been proven to be the single most effective enrollment and training method throughout MLM history? This is a benefit?

"No selling!" So, you're... lying?

"Our infinity bonus pays 10% down to the first Platinum-With-Diamonds-In -It Director in the leg." Translation: "Our infinity bonus pays down a few more levels and then stops."

Mr. Webster and I have a very different definition of "infinity" than many MLM companies. I'm pretty sure infinity means doesn't stop.

Here's more illusionary benefits...

"We allow you to enroll your spouse (or yourself) on your own first level!" An illusionary benefit based on the illusion you're the only one that benefits. If everyone else has the same benefit, and they're all double-dipping too, then sure, you're get paid double - on half the volume!

"No (or little tiny) monthly personal volume requirement!" So, you create this big downline full of people all sitting around waiting for someone to order something. If you don't have to order very much, then they don't have to order very much.

"You can earn overrides on your own personal volume!" This essentially amounts to a rebate. Problem is, it's really just a tax free loan to the company that you will pay income tax on twice! Think about it. You pay $10.00 of already taxed income for a bottle of vitamins. The company keeps it for a month, then pays you back $2.00 of your own money. They got free use of your money for a month, and Uncle Sam says that $2.00 is new income. And you get double taxed - instead of just charging you $8.00 for the vitamins. The company benefits in two ways: Financially, and the creation of good will. The distributors actually think they're doing them a favor!

Here's my all time favorite: "We sell our service at slightly below cost, but we make it up in volume." I think we should pause for a moment on that one.

Okay, let's continue.

"(fill in the company) was ten years in development!" So, the founder thought about it for nine years, and spent the last year putting everything together?

"We're in prelaunch!" The birth of an MLM company is no different than the birth of a baby. You're never in "prebirth." Either you're born, or your not. Either your processing applications, shipping product, and cutting checks, or you're not. "Prelaunch" is nothing more than a marketing gimmick to entice the naivé newcomer to MLM who still believes there is an inherent advantage to "getting in at the top." Some companies have romanced this illusion for literally years! I know one company that claimed they were in prelaunch in their third year of business!

"Ground floor" is abused in much the same maneer. Some companies are now defining ground floor by the relatively small number of distributors they have, not their age. One such company recently claimed to be a "ground floor opportunity" even though they were over ten years old!

Statistics can be romanced as well. And when you couch them in well played semantics, the results can go from ridiculous to dangerous.

"You can earn up to $90,000 per month, or more!" Read this very real ad headline carefully. It essentially covers every number from zero to infinity. The ultimate Truth in Advertising.

"Over 300,000 people have joined our company!" This was also a true statement at the time. Of course, the ad forgot to mention that 230,000 had since quit. Note, it doesn't say they have 300,000, it says that's how many "have joined."

Along those same lines, several less-than-five-year-old MLM companies today are bragging about their distributor base of 500,000-plus. The catch is, they are counting how many sequential ID numbers they have given out throughout their history. Each could lose 50,000 reps next month, and gain 1,000 new ones, and that number will go up to 501,000.

Hype: To increase artificially.

And speaking of less-than-five-year-old companies, have you heard this one? "Only 26 (29?, 32?, 36?) MLM companies have made it to their fifth anniversary." The most ironic thing about this wholly incorrect claim (I have 79 such companies in my database) is that it was popularized by a leading distributor for a company that had not yet celebrated it's fifth anniversary. The intent here, obviously, was to scare prospects away from less-than-five-year-old companies. The reality is that the vast majority of MLM failures occur within the first two years. So, to then suggest that the vast majority fail within the first five years would be an accurate statement, would it not? But then, so would "The vast majority of MLM companies fail within the first 20 years." Of course, you'd only say that if you were involved in a 21 year old company.

But the illogic of this scare-tactic propaganda goes even deeper. Even if the 26 company figure above were accurate, it still wouldn't really mean what it's intended to mean. Of all the MLM companies that have ever existed in the last 53 years, the vast majority launched this decade! Of course there are very few old MLM companies. Using the same illogic I can prove that the Model T Ford is better built and last longer than a Lexus. After all, of all the cars still on the road after 75 years of use, almost all are Model T's and not one is a Lexus.

This one drives me nuts: "If you get four people who each get four, you can make $800 with just 20 people!" These types of pitches will even be referred to as "conservative." They are also assuming that every single distributor that you enroll will enroll four others, and that the bottom 16 will never quit even though they have no downline themselves, in fact no one ever quits, and every single distributor in your downline always orders each month.

Conservative: Moderate; cautious; restrained; erring towards the negative.

And what about those really low attrition rates we keep hearing about? Is a 6% attrition rate good? Sounds pretty good - if they're talking about last year, or over the life of the company. Or, are they referring to yesterday? Or last week? We don't know. They never say. Wonder why.

Reorder rates can be manipulated in much the same way. More than one popular program has recently claimed a "75% monthly reorder rate." Okay, so 100 people order in January. Seventy five reorder in February. Then, 75% of them, or 56 people will reorder in March... and 42 in April... 32 in May... 24 in June... I think you see where this is going... and 12 months later you'll have no customers left - and still be able to make an honest claim to a 75% monthly reorder rate. Technically.

There was a company a few years ago that claimed 93% of all those surveyed had lost weight on their diet products. What wasn't revealed was that only those who had been on the product for at least six months were part of the survey. What I can't figure out is why the other 7% kept ordering!

"There are liars, damn liars, and statisticians." - Mark Twain

The Aloe wars of the early 90's saw it's share of data romancing. One company said right on their 16 oz. bottle, "This bottle contains 100% pure Aloe Vera." A competitor had the product assayed. It contained one ounce of pure Aloe Vera, and 15 oz. of water and flavoring. They sued claiming false advertising. They lost. The bottle did indeed "contain 100% pure Aloe Vera." As well as water and flavoring.

Sales figures have seen more romance that a Harlequin Novel. One popular company claimed sales in the hundreds of millions. Upon closer review, I found that almost half of their "sales" were the training packages they were charging their distributors, not the product they were in the business of selling. In fact, "sales" included administrative fees, shipping charges, marketing tools, and other such items. I guess a sale is a sale. Another company recently claimed a monthly sales figure of $8.5 million. Of course, they were quoting "retail" sales... and they have a 100% suggested markup... and an 8 oz. bottle of shampoo wholesaled for $12.50 ($25.00 suggested retail)... they have free distributor enrollment... so their products are probably never retailed, ever... so... their actual sales were exactly half the number they were promoting.

There's an old saying, "If you torture the data long enough you can make it say anything." It seems it's also true that you can romance it into doing your bidding as well.

Do we, as an industry, tend to romance our incomes, just a little? Like, when someone says to you "My income has reached $50,000 per month!" Only, they forget to mention that a third came from a downline that was given to them as part of a sweetheart deal with the company, another third came from a past downline that they moved over, and the other third came from the books and tapes they marketed to this prefab downline. Oh, and notice they didn't actually tell you they were making fifty grand right now, they clearly said their income "has reached" that level. That was in 1993. They're only making $5,000 now, and have $6,000 in monthly expenses. Unfortunately, I'm only exaggerating just a little.

I actually find it quite amusing when I hear these hucksters claim they were making some huge income in another MLM program, and they just "walked away" from it to join this hot, Earth shaking, revolutionary new start up deal. Obviously, there's always more to the story. Like, they sold their old downline, or their distributorship was terminated, or the company just filed Chapter 13. It's easy to walk away from a $50,000 check - when it bounces. One "heavy hitter" called me recently to proclaim he'd just walked away from a one... hundred... thousand... dollar monthly income. True story. Even if his story were all true, you know why I'd never want to be enrolled by this guy? Because I wouldn't want an IDIOT for a sponsor! Or, someone who thought I was.

Folks, when my income gets to $100,000 per month, I'm going to brand my company's logo onto my forehead!

Please understand, I'm not suggesting every positive claim or impressive statistic about network marketing is bogus. In fact, as cynical as I've become about this business, I still believe the "pros" (professionals) outnumber the "cons" (convicts). The desperate, aggressive, over-zealous minority of MLMers out there just seem to be the one's that are always in our face. They stand out.

Network marketing is good. Very good. There's no shortage of positive information out there. I'm just balancing the scale. This is the secret behind the trick. Take away the smoke and mirrors and the illusion loses it's ability to persuade.

Romance the truth. It's okay. Hype is powerless against it.
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Special Invitation
03.31.05 (6:39 pm)
Please join Epic's CEO, Len Clements and President, Randy Mitchell this Monday for important and exciting updates.

NEW TIME: 5:45 pm PST

Dial: 702-835-5000 - access code 43742#
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Art Jonak join's Epic Network this Saturday on a LIVE training call.
03.30.05 (11:00 am)
Do NOT Miss This Call!

Mark your calendars for this Saturday's training call where we will have special guest Art Jonak join us for a 1 hour special training call!

As one of the new breed of rising network marketing stars, Art Jonak has one of the "feel good" stories that keep the dream alive for many.

Twelve years ago he had to count on food stamps to buy milk in the bottle for his newborn daughter. In his quest to get out of debt, he worked two jobs and delivered pizzas at night. His relationships were horrible. Every aspect of his life was spiraling downward. Fast.

So he joined Network Marketing. And like a lot of people, for the first few years of his network marketing career, he struggled mightily. But he never gave up 026

Art became an avid student of the industry. He read MLM books, listened to audio programs, and attended every event he could. He began a program of regular self-development. In other words, he did all of the things your sponsorship line has been telling you to do.

So what happened?

...Tune in this Saturday to find out!

Make the time to be on this call. Bring your downline, prospects and a pen and paper to take notes!

Be there early as we plan on this call booking up fast!

Make it a successful Epic week and Epic Life!


Date:
Saturday, April 02, 2005

Start Time: 01:00 PM Eastern Std Time

End Time: 01:55 PM Eastern Std Time

Dial-in Number: 1-805-620-4000 (Ventura, CA)

Access Code:
27835
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Epic Network Business Overview Tonight
03.29.05 (5:59 am)
Tonight starting at 6 PM (PST) - 9 PM (EST) Epic's Co-Founding Members, Ruben Santiago, and Dan Weinhofer from the Dreams 2 Reality Team provide a "snapshot" introduction to ,a href="http://www.epicnetwork.com/esi"Epic Network International.

NEW NUMBER - 712-824-4400 - access code 43742
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Everyone says thier company is distributor focused. But are they really?
03.28.05 (8:51 pm)
This is an email I and many others Epic Network partners recieved today.

Hello,

You have been personally selected to participate in our quarterly feedback survey. This survey is designed to keep us informed as to the needs and desires of our distributors. We want to know your feelings on various issues that effect your ability to build your business. What do you like and dislike? What do you want more of, or less of? If you are inactive, what do we need to do to get you going? This is your chance to tell your corporate leaders what we would have to do to make Epic Network the perfect MLM program for you.

This survey should only take a few minutes. Just cut and paste the survey into your outgoing mail, type in your responses after each question, then send to .

Thank you for your help!

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A. First, a couple demographic questions:

1. How many years have you been involved in MLM? _____

2. Are you "Fully Activated" (achieved at least $300 in personal sales/purchase volume)?_____

B. What are the three things you most appreciate about the Epic Network program (the things you would least want us to remove or change)?

1.

2.

3.

C. What are the three things you dislike the most about the Epic Network program (the things you would most want us to remove or fix)?

1.

2.

3.

D. Rate the following statements on the following scale: 5=Strongly Agree, 4=Agree, 3=No opinion, 2=Disagree, 1=Strongly Disagree.

1. The overall quality of the Epic product line is excellent _____

2. Epic Vitality taste delicious _____

3. The product label design is great _____

4. The MagniMatch pay plan basics are simple and easy to explain _____

5. The Epic web site is easy to navigate _____

6. The Epic web site looks great _____

7. There's too much information on the web site and much of it should be removed _____

8. The amount of information is great and should be left for those who want it _____

9. The back office sales and commission data is accurate, complete, and useful _____

10. I am happy with Epic's "Anti-Hype" approach to marketing _____

11. I find the Tuesday Opportunity Calls very informative and useful _____

12. I find the corporate e-mails to be informative and useful _____

E. If you had unlimited funds, please tell us (in 200 words or less) what would be the very first thing you would do to improve any aspect of the Epic Network opportunity?


Thank you for caring enough to take the time to complete this survey. Your feedback is sincerely appreciated.

Len Clements
CEO
Epic Network International

By having the willingness to put ego aside and letting quantitative data guide your business, Epic Network is positioning itself as a world leading revolutionary company. Thanks for being the data junkie you are.
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Epic Network Blog Revisited: how it all began
03.27.05 (5:49 pm)
Epic Network Blog Launched on December 19th. I thought I'd take sometime to revisit how this blog came to be. For this reason, below it the first post I launched with web site with. I hope you enjoy it.


Welcome,

My name is Brian Johnson. You should know up front that I am a happy Passport Independent Associate. I am not an Epic Network Distributor. I created Epic Network Blog in response to a conversation that took place back in August of 2004 on Len Clements’s Market Wave Inc forum.

On this thread, it was discovered that Len Clements had been in development of a new network marketing/MLM business. At the time of posting, this meant very little to me. In fact, it was nothing more than to acknowledge that Len Clements was the biggest hypocrite in the Network Marketing/MLM industry for creating yet another Network Marketing/MLM business.

In an article written by Len in 1995 titled MLM START UPS: ARE THEY STRANGLING THE INDUSTRY?... Len Clements writes;

"You see, I can no longer in good conscience support or assist people who are about to add more to the supply of MLM opportunities in an industry where the supply is already far outstripping the demand."

So why did he do it? Furthermore, why do I care? Well, I’m sure before I answer the first question, you’d like to know why I care. Why would I waste hours of energy putting this blog together for something I’m not involved with personally. That’s a fair question. The answer is, during the discussion on his website and thereafter, Len has been in communication with one of my Passport downline.

I was not happy Len was prospecting my guy. In fact I went so far as to use it as fodder against Len in the discussion on his Market Wave Inc. forum. I threatened Len that I would reveal information about him that would “hurt his cred on the street if it was revealed” And just what was I going to reveal? Len claimed that he didn’t use his Market Wave Inc forum as a means of prospecting. I argued he did use it that way. So when my prospect told me Len was trying to sell him on Epic Network, I HAD HIM DEAD TO RIGHTS!!! Len was a hypocrite.

I never did tell Len the secret I revealed here. I just let that thread die down.

Now fast forward to about a week ago. That same guy in my Passport downline had gone silent and his monthly order did not show up. When I asked him if everything was alright, he mentioned that Len had still communicated to him about his new Network Marketing/MLM business. I will tell you, my guy would never have looked at Len’s Epic Network business with serious intent with out cause. He was having one point of contention with Passport. So, being like so many MLM’ers are, when things in your current company get frustrating, other opportunities enter the mind.

When my guy mentioned that he was giving a look at Len Clements’s Epic Network MLM business, I had to find the holes. If I don’t find the problems with Epic Network, I may lose him to Len.

So with my motivation in hand, this blog will serve as a sort of public service announcement. I will make only one promise. To reveal the truth with out hype or B.S. The down side is, I will write about the bad…but also the good points.

I hope you find this informative and revealing. Feel free to post comments and opinions that ad value to this topic. I look forward to hearing from you

Brian Johnson
704-509-1174
Charlotte, NC


**Update**
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Epic Gano Coffee Goes Live!
03.24.05 (11:07 am)
Epic Network has now made it possible to place orders for Epic Gano Coffee.


What is Epic Gano Coffee?

Instant Epic Gano Coffee is a delicious real coffee product with low caffeine and includes non-dairy creamer and real sugar. But what makes Epic Gano so special is the addition of high quality Ganoderma Lucidum powder, an amazingly nutrition rich Red Mushroom that provides energy, helps expel toxins from the body, and gently assists in elimination. This is a type of mushroom that, when dried, takes on a hard consistency much like that of a dried coffee bean. The Ganoderma even tastes like coffee and enhances the bold, rich taste of the premium coffee beans we use in our formulation. It's easy to prepare and convenient to carry.

Specifications

* Only pure cane sugar, non-dairy creamer, fine coffee and high grade Ganoderma powder.

Epic Gano Coffee retails for $9.95 and contains one box contains 20 sachets. Epic Network Partners and wholesale customers can purchase Epic Gano Coffee for $7.45

As of yet, the corporate office has not updated this addition to the product advantage. To place an order, you can click on "customers" on the right hand menu Order Here Health & Nutrition Scroll to the bottom. Epic Gano Coffee can be added to the shopping cart there.

If you have tried this product please feel free to leave a comment on this blog.
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Epic Network Business Presentation Tonight
03.22.05 (11:43 am)
Epic is starting to do something very interesting. Instead of the same person doing a business preview, Len has decided to empower the current Epic Network Leaders with this responsibility.

Last week my team leader Brian Bier gave a presentation that was down to earth, thorough and as expected void of the hype you get anywhere else.

Tonight's call will be conducted by Ruben Santiago and Dan Weinhofer. These are two amazing business builders. I have no doubt that tonight’s call will be a great presentation.

To access the call 702-835-5000 at 9 pm EASTERN STANDARD TIME. When prompted enter access code 4EPIC# (43742#)

Even if you've heard this call before you'll be amazed how much more you will get from the call when you hear it from a different point of view.

I fully expect this call to be jammed packed early. If you want to here these guys just knock it out of the park, then get in early. I will.

Hope to hear you on the call.

Brian J

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Live Conference Call With Author, and #1 Network Marketing Trainer, Michael Oliver 9 pm tonight.
03.10.05 (8:59 am)
Michael Oliver, Author of 'How To Sell Network Marketing Without Fear, Anxiety or Losing Your Friends!' will be the guest speaker on Passport's Conference Call tonight.

The call will take place This thursday at 9:00pm EST

To participate in the
Live Meetings call:
1-641-478-5008

When prompted, dial 491560#.

Please use *6 to mute your line

ADDITIONAL INFO: What Is Natural Selling® and how can it help your MLM Buiness?

Natural Selling® is not about presenting, persuading or pushing your product or service, or 'telling' your prospective customer your story or what he/she needs. It's not about 'closing' and 'objection handling'...All these things create objections and rejection.

Instead it's based on an inner desire to serve and allow others to persuade themselves, if it's appropriate to do so.

It's about learning a precise method of communicating based on simple, easy to ask non-intrusive questions, and listening. This allows your contact, and you, to 'discover' together whether your product or service is right for them! The process allows them to persuade themselves to change their present circumstances and do business with you. It also eliminates objections and rejection and thus eliminates the fear.

What this means to you is, whether you're a professional Salesperson, Distributor, Business Owner, or someone who has never sold before, Natural Selling® enables you to succeed by eliminating your fear and anxiety about meeting people or selling. You will attract more customers, create real relationships, and generate more repeat business and referrals.
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EPIC NETWORK CORPORATE PROGRESS REPORT
02.28.05 (1:34 pm)
Back Office Commission Viewer Now Online

For those of you who have purchased at least a Gold technology package you can now go to the "Commission" link in your "Digital Back Office Tools" area and see a breakdown of your income each week. Starting next week we will also be sending a detailed income and sales volume report with your check.

New MagniMatch Flash Presentation Now Online

Go to the Compensation Advantage Overview page and click on "Compensation Plan Overview." This approximately seven minute long presentation now has an audio narration trac that accompanies the graphics.

$100 Sales Center Activation Level Eliminated

Previously you were required to achieve at least $100 in lifetime PSV (Personal Sales Volume) to "Partially Activate" your Sales Center and begin earning commissions and bonuses. This threshold has been completely eliminated. Now, if you have any amount of PSV less than $300 you Sales Center is partially activated. Under this new qualification rule, even those who join at only the $40 PSV level can now begin earning income. You still must accumulate the one-time qualification of $300 in PSV within your first twelve weeks to "fully activate" your Sales Center (which will double the amount of your entire check).

Two Bottle of Epic Vitality Now Meets The $40 PSV Qualification

Previously, two bottles of Epic Vitality created $39.90 in PSV ($19.95 per bottle) requiring distributors to order one more product to meat the minimum $40 PSV requirement to earn Fast 40 Bonuses. Many of you requested that we allow for this one exception and let two bottles of Vitality meet this $40 qualification, but without raising the price of Vitality. You asked for it, you got it!

Autoship System Customized and Simplified

The product selection form for creating your autoship order has been simplified considerably. Also, the programming has been updated to accommodate Epic's 4 week (28 day) pay cycle (it was designed for the more standard monthly qualification cycle), and you are now given the choice of when you wish your autoship orders to begin.

Epic Network Now a Member of the MLMIA

Epic Network is now a member of both the DRA (Distributor Rights Association, www.mlm-dra.com) as well as the MLMIA (Multi-Level Marketing International Association, www.mlmia.com), an industry trade association.

More major good news to be announced within the next week! Watch for the next Update!

Len Clements
CEO

Randy Mitchell
President

(SIDE NOTE: I have to say, this is pretty cool. Most companies usually don't change in the distributors favor. Good job guys. Thanks for keep our interest first.

Brian Johnson
704.509.1174
Epic Network Blog
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Maximum Payout Madness!
02.24.05 (9:39 am)
There is a new conference call with Len tonight:

Maximum Payout Madness!

First in a Series of Anti-Hype Calls

Host: Epic Network Co-Founder and CEO Len Clements

Our first Anti-Hype call will be Thursday, February 24th, at 6:00 PM PST (9:00 PM EST) at 702-835-5000 ext. 4EPIC# (43742)

This call will kick off an ongoing series of "Anti-Hype" presentations and trainings in keeping with Epic Network's efforts to not just avoid practicing hype, but to defend ourselves against it! This information will help you present the product benefits and income potential of the Epic program in a realistic, truthful manner without getting "out-hyped" by all the ridiculous claims made by those who are competing with you for the same prospects. There will also be some time allotted for questions, so have them ready. Also, if you are being challenged by any type of hype claims made by competitors during the sales and recruiting process, e-mail them to Len@EpicNetwork.com and we'll try to address them in future "Anti-Hype" calls.

To listen to last week's call, "Reality Cheque" go to http://www.audioacrobat.com/p...

Your Epic Support Team

Epic Network International
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